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Open for Discussion: Is Total Recovery Possible?

November 4, 2009 · 104 Comments

In response to my post about my ED past, Alison from Live, Listen, Cook asked this question:

“Here’s a question for you…do you think you’ll ever completely eradicate ED? I think it will always be there for me— or at least my relationship with food is forever changed, even if I eat healthfully. This changed relationship with food is not all bad, but I do hate that the monster in my head never goes away completely. What do you think?”

It’s been 2 weeks since she had asked, and I’ve been meaning to answer this comment earlier, but did not get a chance until now. I’m so sorry, Alison! But I wanted to post this question up for discussion, as I think many of us ED-recovers wonder the same thing.

Is true, total recovery possible? How do you know whether you’re completely recovered?

I cannot say for others (that is why I need your input), but I will speak from my own thoughts and experience: I most absolutely believe that complete recovery is possible. But the word “recovery” is ambiguous. What does it mean? How can you tell?

To be honest, I don’t think I’ll have the same exact relationship with food as I had before. I now know too much about nutrition, and that information will never be eliminated from my brain. Bring out a handful of grains, or a spoonful of oil, and I can automatically tell you exactly how many calories are in it.

Also, my taste buds have changed. I used to avoid vegetables and vegetables like the plague, but now I love and crave them. I don’t like meat as much as I did, nor do I want to eat 2 Super-sized McDonald’s french fries every single afternoon like I used to.

But recovery doesn’t mean that I need to revert back to the way I was before. It just means that food no longer controls me. I don’t obsess about food as much, I no longer fear any certain food, I don’t avoid social eating, I don’t obsessively count calories, I don’t freak out over a missed work out, I don’t have a rigid eating schedule, and I don’t always have to eat “healthy”.

Alison also mentioned the “monster in the head”…that terrible voice that likes to call you names. Fat. Weak. Lazy. Loser. It likes to mock you, and tempt you:

“Why did you eat so much, you fat greedy pig?”
“Hey, you missed your run this morning. Why not restrict today?”
“Bah, so much stress! You’re losing control! But at least you can control your food intake!” 
“Whoa, check out your Thunder thighs! Your underpants will burst into flames from the friction between them!”

Well, here’s the bad news: this voice might always be there. Why? Because it’s habitual. I’m in such a habit of living in such negative thoughts, that sometimes I just instinctively think them. I might eat more than usual, and immediately think, “Sophia, you fatso.” Or I might feel bloated, and panic, “Am I gaining all the fat on my stomach?”

But here’s the good news: Recovery means that you might hear these voices, but you don’t act on them. And as time goes on, the voice will fade away until it’s just a distant memory. Just as it took time to get into the habit of thinking such thoughts, it will take a bit of time to get out of them. But as long as you continuously and consistently ignore them, they will go away.

Therefore, I have hope. In fact, there are a lot of times when I would think back to all the crazy-ass, disordered stuff I used to do: only eating protein and vegetables, throwing away egg yolks, browsing grocery stores all day, buying fat-free cheese and low-carb bread, writing out all my calorie-intake of the day, even hiding food in my socks (WTF?)…and I would just be absolutely flabbergasted and disgusted at myself, exclaiming, “I did WHAT? What the hell? I can’t believe I used to do that!”

But I feel the need to emphasize on one thing: In order to gain full recovery, you have to let go of everything that is disordered. You can’t pick-and-choose; it’s all or nothing. You all are smart enough to know what is disordered or not without me laying out the details. Your conscience will speak to you.

I hope that answers your question, Alison. Thank you for such a thought-provoking comment. And I’d like to open this topic up for discussion, so anyone who has any thoughts on this, please speak up! :-)

So, I’ve mentioned above that my taste buds have changed since my eating disorder, but two things that haven’t: My distaste for rice, and my passion for kabocha. My love for kabocha is self-explanatory, but let me explain why I hate rice: I just don’t get how anyone can like that plain, fluffy, texture-less grain! That doesn’t mean I dislike all grains though. As long as they have an interesting texture to them, I love. 

In fact, smart, lovely Christina sent me a bag of Trader Joe’s Greenwheat freekeh for my birthday. I’m totally in love with this grain now! I’ve made a couple of dishes with them already, but here’s the first one I made with Mimi:

Cheesy-Kabocha Chicken with Raisins and Walnuts Over Grains
(I know, it’s a freaking mouthful. I’m so bad with names! Help me!)

For the Cheesy-Kabocha Sauce:

  • oil
  • 2 cloves garlic, minced
  • 1/2 onion, diced finely
  • 1/2 cup kabocha puree (or, reluctantly, pumpkin)
  • 1 cup milk
  • 1/2 cup sharp cheddar cheese
  • 1/4 cup cottage cheese
  • salt and pepper
  • pinch of turmeric

For the Chicken:

  • oil
  • 2 cloves garlic, minced
  • 1/2 onion, chopped
  • 1/4 red bell pepper, diced
  • 1 boneless, skinless chicken breast
  • 1/3 cup raisins

For the Grains:

  • 1/2 cup bulgur, dry
  • water
  • salt and pepper
  • pinch of cumin and cinnamon
  • 1 cup Trader Joe’s Greenwheat Freekeh

For the toppings:

  • handful salad greens
  • 3 basil leaves, shredded
  • 1/3 cup walnuts, chopped
  • 1/2 cup feta cheese, crumbled (or blue cheese)

For the sauce, first cook the garlic and onion in the oil until soft and fragrant. Then stir in the kabocha and pour in the milk. As the liquid starts to thicken, add in both cheeses and season to taste. Stir, then turn down the heat and leave aside.

Next for the chicken, stir-fry garlic, onions, and bell pepper until cooked, then add in the chicken and cook until done. Pour in the cheesy-kabocha sauce and mix together. Add in the raisins.

Meanwhile, cook the bulghur in water, and season with the seasonings and spices. Once the bulghur is cooked, stir in the Freekeh.

To dish, set a handful of salad greens, then scrape the grains on top. Ladle on the cheesy-kabocha chicken mixture, and top with the basil leaves, walnuts, and feta cheese. Crack extra black pepper on top if you like. This serves two hungry girls!

IMG_1023 Aii yai yai! This was a beautiful dish. I think Mimi and I just stepped aside to gaze at it in wonder for awhile.
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And then we dug in!
IMG_1031 I can’t tell you how amazing this dish was. It was absolutely…well, amazing! Ah, words fails me!
IMG_1027 And that freekeh stuff is absolutely delightful:
IMG_1034 So incredibly chewy with its separate, chewy grains, and together with the gritty, crunchy bulghur, the texture was a sensation in my mouth! Thank you, Christina!
IMG_1030 And come on. Cheesy, creamy, kabocha chicken? Enough said. Absolutely freakalicious!
IMG_1028 It’s funny how now I sneak in greens in there more for a contrast of color rather than nutrition. Ah, to be a food blogger!
IMG_1032 Somehow, this dish ended up scoring 100 points in nutrition (if I say so myself):

  • Omega-3 fats from the walnuts
  • the vitamin B and fiber from the grains
  • the protein and iron from the chicken
  • the various vitamins and minerals from the vegetables and kabocha
  • garlic and onions for immunity
  • calcium from the 3 different cheeses
  • some antioxidants from the raisins…

Man. I didn’t even notice what a nutritional powerhouse this dish was until now! See, here’s another thing about recovery I learned: I no longer obsess about nutrition, but instead focus on taste and texture when it comes to creating my dishes. And somehow, it still ends up being super nutritious! :-)

Okay, gotta have dinner now. This girl is HANGRY! Oh, here’s another thing I earned from recovery: Being able to feel and honor my hunger! It’s so damn nice to feel hunger and cravings again!

Question of the day: I’ve answered Alison’s question, but I’m sure I missed something. I’m opening it up for discussion, so any input is appreciated!

But for those of you who aren’t ED-recoverers, I have an equally important question to ask: Rice. Like or hate?

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104 responses so far ↓

  • Anna // November 4, 2009 at 12:45 am | Reply

    I think you really nailed it as far as what defines ‘recovery’ – not acting on those disordered thoughts. Our society really is just bombarded with body image and diet information all day, every day, and it would be impossible to eliminate all of those negative thoughts into your head. There is also the fine line between eating healthily and taking it too far, and this is also where recovery comes in. Maybe veganism helped me to enable my disorder and offered me an excuse to have total control over my food intake, but I really do believe in it and want to continue eating a certain way, but for reasons that are much bigger than the size that I think I am.

    So, recovery really is just learning to live again and not let food and exercise dictate your life. Health is more than just nutrition – it’s a mindset.

    Thanks for prompting us with this question – you should see some really interesting perspectives!

  • Christina // November 4, 2009 at 12:52 am | Reply

    I was all prepared to chime in the discussion and then I realized you’d be featuring the freekeh I sent you and got sooo excited!! Too cool! :) I had a feeling it would involve kabocha and cheese! ;) I’m glad you liked it, I hoped you would.

    To answer the rice question, I actually don’t mind rice. I rarely, if ever, eat it plain, so I guess I don’t think of it as bland. I usually use it for a bed under a bunch of tasty stuff, or I make a pilaf, etc. Plain rice I can definitely see as boring and plain. Glad you liked the nutty freekeh, though!

    Onto the ED question. I think that total recovery is possible, but it depends on the situation. There are many reasons ppl have unhealthy relationships w/ food like stress, trying to control an aspect of their life, a compulsive disorder, an unhealthy view of nutrition, or an unhealthy view of themselves, trying to lose weight drastically. There are also many levels of EDs, some minor that the person can snap out of themselves and then the deep, dark ones that land you in the hospital, fighting for your life. Depending on your reason, your level, and also journey you take to return to healthiness definitely can add up to TOTAL recovery. I think that you, Sophia, have done a tremendous job b/c you realize that the journey of recovery is not just returning your body to a healthy state, but also returning your mind. It’s a different story if you just focus on the physical healing and ignore the mental healing — the monsters will still lurk.

  • Carolyn Jung // November 4, 2009 at 12:52 am | Reply

    I haven’t heard of the TJ’s greenwheat. I’ll have to hunt it down my next trip there. Sounds healthy — in a good way. ;)

  • Allie (Live Laugh Eat) // November 4, 2009 at 12:57 am | Reply

    I agree with you–I think it’s possible but that depends on what recovery means to the person. My relationship with food will be forever changed. For the most part, that is a good thing. I crave fruits and veggies and I choose whole grains whenever possible. I try to get in all the food groups yadda yadda. Most importantly, I have an appreciation for good food. I didn’t used to know the difference between good quality food and bad quality food.

    Although I think the thoughts will always be there, it’s one’s actions that count. Whether or the person allows the thoughts to affect his or her behavior is what’s important.

  • traynharder23 // November 4, 2009 at 12:57 am | Reply

    this post was eye opening…in so many ways…. i used to think total recovery wasn’t really possible- a little bit of ED will still remain..

    but it’s good to know HOW to totally recovery- let go, be free.

    and GLAD TO HEAR SOMEONE ELSE DOESN” TLIKE RICE! as you can tell, i don’t eat rice! beh!

  • eatingmachine // November 4, 2009 at 1:00 am | Reply

    five years ago, right around now i was at the lowest weight i’d ever been-a good 50 pounds less than what i weigh now.
    for a long time i did wonder if i’d ever be better… if i’d be able to skip a day at the gym and not punish myself by not eating… if after a big meal i’d stop wanting to throw up.
    and it took a long, long time.
    but one day, i suddenly realized i was eating like a normal person-the right amount of food, not binging, not starving, not hating myself if i had a big dessert, not wanting to throw up out of habit after meals.
    i love food, clearly, but it’s in a good way now. there are things from my past that linger (i ate a fairly high percentage of fat because it kept me going longer-i’ve got blood sugar issues-when i was going on far too few calories, and today i know my diet has more fat than it ought to) it’s just not my life anymore.
    and i’m so thankful for that.

  • traynharder23 // November 4, 2009 at 1:09 am | Reply

    hahah. yeah yeah, took a step back from egg whites and burritos…i thought i should take a page from you- try a COOKIE. or BARS =D

  • Jolene (www.everydayfoodie.ca) // November 4, 2009 at 1:16 am | Reply

    That meal looks absolutely fantastic – and the pictures are beautiful. Drooooling!!!

    I totally love rice … I even like it plain with just a little butter … weird hey!

  • Kim // November 4, 2009 at 1:17 am | Reply

    I have given a lot of thought to your question lately – is total recovery possible? For so long, I assumed recovery meant I would be exactly how I was pre-anorexia. I’ve come to realize that this is just unrealistic. Like you said, I know way more about nutrition (for better or worse) and my taste buds are a whole lot different. I’ve aged 12 years, after all. I think recovery is in the eye of the recoverer. It’s a matter of perception. I haven’t changed all that noticeably (to an outsider) in the past year or so, but I would say right now that I’m “recovered” in that I don’t spend much time thinking about food, I get my period, and I’m ok with where I am in my life. Once I stopped beating myself up for certain things, I realized that while I’m different than the person I used to be, this new person isn’t all that bad. Yes, my relationship with food is different than it was, but that’s fine with me. I’m getting more comfortable with who I am. I can distinguish what I like food-wise from what scares me. I really think it’s a lot about self-acceptance and not putting recovery on this unreachable pedestal. It is reachable. It doesn’t mean life will be perfect. I used to think that “when I recovered” I would be this sociable, upbeat person without any trace of anxiety or depression. The truth is I still struggle with the same things I did when I was sick, but they are parts of who I am, not related to what I eat or don’t eat. That’s probably way too long of an answer, but those are my thoughts :)

  • Devan G Newman // November 4, 2009 at 1:49 am | Reply

    what a wonderful post, sophia.

    I dont really know how to comment on this post, as I still have many disorderd “ways” with food, exercise, etc.

    I do belive that you can rid of those disordred way, and gain a stronger peace of mind, and love of self. Though those thoughts.. that “monster” may be in ones head a lot. ( for me, currently all the time).. that monster is able to be turned way down.. into something smaller than you. something you can control..

    your squash dish looks great, you are so creative :D

  • Nicole // November 4, 2009 at 1:57 am | Reply

    I like what you said about recovery meaning you might hear the voices, but you don’t act on them. I think this is so true. I know of a former alcoholic who told me once that the desire to drink is always there, it’s just a matter of whether or not you decide to take a drink. And some days, the desire is a lot stronger than other days. You hit it right on the head, Sophia.

    Love that cheesy-kabocha dish! I’m so glad that you add things like salad greens to your dishes just for color’s sake because it makes them so beautiful! Mimi is such a lucky gal!

    BTW, I LOVE RICE! I could eat plain, hot, white rice by the bucketful!

  • Mama Pea // November 4, 2009 at 2:01 am | Reply

    I love that you answered this the way you did. I always want there to at least be the hope that one day I will wake up and that voice won’t be there. I choose not to always be a victim, not to give up on recovery because it will “never fully happen.”

    I really do think that there are so many things in life that we have control and a choice about and it is cowardly to put recovery off because you may never get better.

    I don’t care for rice either. It’s what you dump on it that makes it taste good!

  • Ann Q // November 4, 2009 at 2:11 am | Reply

    What a fantastic post….I was actively Bulimic (including Exercise Bulimic) for YEARS. You make a great point –while I still have those same thoughts pop into my head, I find it easier to squelch them.

    Before, I’d go to the gym six days a week no matter what, doing at least 1 1/2 hours of cardio, and knew the exact amount of calories I had each day.

    Now I’m okay working out anywhere from 4 – 6 days a week, and it’s all dependent on how I feel…

    Fab post! :-)

  • Grace-Melody Moo // November 4, 2009 at 2:19 am | Reply

    Dear Sophia, what u wrote is so true :) I have recovered from ED, but that doesn’t mean that the negative thoughts no longer bug me. They still do at times, but we can choose not to act on them anymore because we now know better :) And the freedom to enjoy our friends and loved ones, enjoy good meals with them, not freak out over missed workouts, etc… these are sure signs of recovery!:) Praise God.

  • solclare // November 4, 2009 at 2:32 am | Reply

    Haha yes! Distaste for rice! I hate eating rice too!

    And that recipe looks really awesome! How can one ever say no to pumpkin right? :p

  • theUngourmet // November 4, 2009 at 2:54 am | Reply

    When I first saw your opening sentence my mind immediately thought of another ED! I must have just seen a commercial for Viagra or something. Sorry! :D

    This does look fabulous and I do so love all of the colorful greens!

  • Maggie // November 4, 2009 at 3:31 am | Reply

    I’m with you on rice – ick. And kabocha – love. I really like your response to the question :)

  • amandakjy // November 4, 2009 at 3:31 am | Reply

    WooHoo! Pumpkin!

  • Tina // November 4, 2009 at 3:39 am | Reply

    Sophia, I completely agree with you. I used to think that I would never be able to have a “normal” relationship with food anymore. Which is true to an extent. But it’s all about your definition of “normal” and if “normal” is what you want to go back to. I mean, I don’t go to McDonald’s anymore and I don’t eat cake by the kilo… but it’s all about the motivation behind these things. If it’s a mean voice saying: “You can’t have it because you’re too fat” or “You don’t deserve it”, it’s ED. But if it’s your body saying: “Hmm, I don’t really feel like eating this.” or “I don’t want this BUT I want something else” then we can speak of recoevery. My eating habits have completely changed – but for the better. I’m so much more in touch with my body now.

    And as for rice… I used to like it, but only when I wanted something carby. Now, I prefer fruit or veggies or something.. RICE HAS NO TASTE!!! :O

    xxx

  • jenn // November 4, 2009 at 3:41 am | Reply

    Great post. I think the same would go for anyone going through some form of rehabilitation/recovery. It is possible to fully recover from illness, yet there will always be that little voice nudging you to revert back to how it was before. It comes down to how a person reacts to the situation.

    ps. I LOVE rice!!!

  • Jamie // November 4, 2009 at 3:49 am | Reply

    Is total recovery possible? It does indeed have to do with your definition of total. I think that you have done an amazing job overcoming and mastering your ED and yourself. I have never suffered from an ED but was diagnosed with something complicated, dark and horrible. I went through pills and therapy. People would look at me and say “she’s totally recovered” yet I know that I still live with it every day, it stills haunts me and it scares me every day thinking I’ll sink into it again. I fight every day to be “normal”. I think part of going on everyday is remembering and just trying to keep it at bay. It is always there, and we just stay one or two steps ahead of it. And often the best thing is to step back and take a look at your life and think how far you’ve come, how well you are doing and be proud of yourself that you are beating the devil with each thing you do and step you take.

    A big hug to you.

  • Astra Libris // November 4, 2009 at 3:57 am | Reply

    As always, I learn much from your posts…

    and I am always in awe of your incredible, creative, gourgeous, gourmet dishes! Have you thought of having your own cooking show someday? Pretty please? :-)

    I do have to confess that I love rice… :-) (preferably brown rice, though, for both nutrient content and texture…) In Louisiana, nearly everything is served over rice, so we have rice almost e-v-e-r-y night… :-p I do adore all other grains, though, and sometimes I happily swap the rice for barley, or oat groats, or bulgar, etc… I’ve never tried freekeh, though – thank you for introducing me! :-)

  • julia // November 4, 2009 at 4:42 am | Reply

    I could have wrote this…exactly! The only difference is that I believe the ‘voices’ can go away too, maybe it’ll take some time, but still…I heard that from several people, so I’ve got faith! For the rest: yes, yes, yes! So right! It’s all or nothing. And you did it all!

    As for rice: I never liked it and am still not a big fan, but perfectly cooked pandan rice (a bit fluffy, light, not to dry, not to wet) can be really good now and then!

    xxx Julia (Taste of Living)

  • crazylittlethingneela // November 4, 2009 at 4:54 am | Reply

    sophia i just copy-pasted this post into a word document. i am keeping this for days when the voices inside my head start to be a little louder. i loved that you said about what recovery is.
    i dont know if i’ve mentioned this beofre but my mum is a former anorexic. she is recovered now in terms of eating. she can eat everything and anything but what i did realize is that her personality and the need to be insanely friendly and kind and liked by everyone seems to stay. i feel as if my mum has given up the control over food but tries to control other things in life. and her self-esteem is still very very low. criticism gets her down very easily and she can be quite a fragile person. i sometimes think even though she is recovered from anorexia she has developed a new disorder in how to deal with her problems in life.
    i am not saying that recovery is not possible, i strongly believe that it is. but we really need to watch out that we dont just fall from one disorder into the next. and the desire to be ‘normal’ again needs to far far stronger than any other desire in you

  • Abhilash // November 4, 2009 at 4:57 am | Reply

    In India rice is an important part of daily meals.

    I also had a great past, bulky, bulging, frustrated past.

    For me food is never controllable. I decide to eat 6 wheat chappaties a day and end up with 20-25.

    I cannot control them but yes I can stop my body growing bigger. I exercise daily, the more I eat the more I work out. My stomach appears the same it was.

    I think recovery is possible and sucessful.

  • thenomadGourmand // November 4, 2009 at 5:37 am | Reply

    Ohh…I love rice! hehe..esp fried rice with salted egg! ;p
    Or chinese fried rice..or brown rice! Nasi lemak!!
    u dont like nasi lemak??

    But plain rice? No no no..must be those econ rice with a lot of dishes ..yes yes yes!

  • fruitsveggieslife // November 4, 2009 at 7:24 am | Reply

    Oh Sophia, you’ve done it again! I agree with you – recovery is possible if you go for it with everything you have. 110%. It takes a lot of hard work, and may take time, but its worth it! I know my relationship with food will be forever changed, but not necessarily in a bad way – I know what I like, I know what is good for me, and I know that what I’m eating nourishes my body in the best way.

    Now, rice.
    I like brown rice, wild rice, and even that special purple rice. But white rice? Not so much.

  • Lesley Living Life // November 4, 2009 at 7:27 am | Reply

    Though I can’t say from experience … I agree with everything you have said and I think you said it very well!

    I do believe that recovery from any of life’s problems is always possible with God’s help. He can redeem anything, recover ANYTHING, ANYONE.

    As far as voices in your head … we ALL have them about EVERYTHING. While some may be stronger than others, whether you’ve had an eating disorder or not, everyone has thoughts come into their head that shouldn’t be there. And it could be about anything … because we ALL deal with SOMETHING.

    I remember once hearing something about doubts and negative thoughts coming into your head that just kind of hit me like a brick … when you have doubts, when you have these voices come into your head that doubt and that tell you you’re not good enough … why should you believe them? Rather, just doubt that thought that comes into your head … “doubt the doubt” instead of believing it. When it comes up just say, “No, I doubt it …. ” and move on … we tend to always believe these negative things and doubt that we really ARE good enough or that we really ARE doing right … but why not doubt that doubt instead? ;)

    (end of really long comment)

  • Rachel // November 4, 2009 at 7:30 am | Reply

    Whoa. As usual, you really put things into perspective, and I’m really really thankful for the wonderful person (and blogger!) that you are:) All or nothing…sigh. But that’s the way it is, I guess.

    Rice. Um, there was one time when I wouldn’t eat rice and similar carbs, but now that I have to, I’m pretty okay with it. Not a DIE DIE MUST HAVE, if you get what I mean:)

  • Matt // November 4, 2009 at 7:34 am | Reply

    Rice = ok.

    I would rather eat pasta ;)

  • Jessica @ How Sweet It Is // November 4, 2009 at 7:43 am | Reply

    I’ve been very fortunate to never struggle with an ED, but my heart goes out to all of you who have. The chicken looks wonderful. I haven’t been eating much chicken but this looks very appetizing to me!

  • Lauren // November 4, 2009 at 8:10 am | Reply

    WOw, I think that you have answered this question beautifully! Everything you say is so true and I couldn’t agree more. I truly beleive that we will ALWAYS have a different relationship with food but it doesn’t mean that it has to be a bad one. I think as you get older, we all develop a different relationship with food and diet. It’s unaviodable because the changing of our bodies is unaviodable. I really feel that we are given these times to trial and challenge to remind ourselves of how strong we really are and how far we have come.

    Right on girl!

    PS- HOLY YUM!!!! I love your bowls sooooo much, and I can’t never stop telling you this!

  • Kathleen // November 4, 2009 at 8:13 am | Reply

    I’ve been through ED, and YES, tendencies from it definitely stick around. For example, I am still a little wary about the difference in calories between honey mustard and regular mustard. Yep, its stupid.

    As for rice, girl, I am NOT a hater here. I freaking LOVE rice…esp. Spanish rice…SO GOOD :)

  • Abby // November 4, 2009 at 8:25 am | Reply

    Ummm…did you write this post for me, again? Wow. That’s all I got, because you’re right–you can’t pick or choose. You have to completely let go and trust the process, so to speak. Just…wow.

    And I love rice and eat it a few times a week. Sautee some almond slivers and mushrooms and throw it in a big bowl of brown rice with butter and pepper, add some protein and veggies on the side and it’s the perfect meal!

  • The Candid RD // November 4, 2009 at 8:33 am | Reply

    I’m an ED recoverer, but I want to answer, I like rice!

    This was a fantastic post, Sophia. I think you hit it on the nail, seriously. You are correct, while you may no longer have the same relationship with food, it can still be a healthy relationship, and it’s almost better because you usually know MORE about health and wellness and you can practice the techniques you learned in a HEALTHY way. It’s great.
    Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Sophia, some people really need to read stuff like this in order to not give up on their path to recovery.

  • The Foodie Diaries // November 4, 2009 at 8:40 am | Reply

    Can’t speak to the recovery question as I have no experience with ED, but this was an incredibly honest and thought-provoking post, as always, Miss Sophiaaa…

    As for rice, LOVE! I actually feel the way you do about rice toward pasta. It just does nothing for me–but rice? Love it ALL–yes, white included.

  • leslie // November 4, 2009 at 8:40 am | Reply

    sophia, your response to this question was really, really intelligent and thought-provoking to read. it really has me thinking.

    i agree with you – complete recovery is possible in that obsessive habits can be normalized, but the thoughts might never go away. but the thing is, i don’t think we’re the only ones who have those thoughts. women are focused on their appearances. it might be unfortunate, but it is what it is. it’s a habit for many, many people, disordered or not to say, “omg, a french fry! straight to my thighs!” obviously those of us with disordered histories took that voice farther than it should go, but still, i think it’s ok for it to exist. it’s unrealistic to think that we’ll never eat too much at a meal, or look in the mirror on occasion and criticize something. everyone does it. as long as we’re not obsessing, as long as those occasions are few and far between, we’re living just like any other woman.

    also, i have to say that while the thoughts still enter my head on occasion, they used to consume me every second of every day. i’ll take occasional negativity over constant obsession any day.

  • greensandjeans // November 4, 2009 at 8:55 am | Reply

    I was lucky enough to get steered back on track by my friends and family before my disordered eating habits because a full on ED, but there are definitely moments where that crazy voice pops into my head and I want to go run 10 miles to burn off what I’ve just had for dinner. On the whole, I think recovery is being able to confidently tell that voice, “nope, I’m good” and move on with my day.

    As far as rice is concerned, can I give it a “meh?”

  • Spotty Prep // November 4, 2009 at 9:29 am | Reply

    Fabulous post!

    I do not care for white rice- if I’m making something that should go over something rice like, I go for polenta or the kashi microwaveable pilaf packets. At Moe’s, Chipotle and Qdoba I always skip the rice in my burritos and get weird looks. Good to know I’m not that weird after all :)

  • Susan // November 4, 2009 at 9:31 am | Reply

    I cannot believe you ever threw out egg yolks Sophia. I am SO happy you don’t feel like you have to do that anymore :) And I am totally making that squash sauce. That looks amazing.

    I’m pretty “meh” about rice too. I actually really dislike white rice. It’s got that same mushy, tasteless texture that white pasta has. I much prefer a sturdier grain like quinoa.

  • Nowheymama // November 4, 2009 at 9:32 am | Reply

    I so appreciate your willingness to discuss topics like this.

  • gfedge // November 4, 2009 at 9:49 am | Reply

    My Mom was from Louisiana and rice was always a big deal there. Rice with gumbo, rice dressing in the holiday turkey, dirty rice . . . . hmmm, common denominator there is lots of herbs and seasoning. Quinoa is one of my favorites but I do love the brown rice, so nutty and chewy. These various sauces sound good – thanks for the inspiration!~

  • blueeyedheart // November 4, 2009 at 9:51 am | Reply

    I once told a nutritionist that I wished I could forget any of this ever happened to me, and she said that she wouldn’t want me to do that. Which is a good point… if you’re not aware of it, even a tiny bit, I guess that might make it easier to fall into the trap again.

    I agree with you about tastes changing — I don’t know if that would have happened anyway as I got older, but the thought of eating the way I did when I was younger makes me feel sick! It does make me a little sad, though, that I will always have that little voice in my head, even if I am at a place where I can just brush it off.

    Considering that I am a carb freak, it’s hard for me to NOT like a grain!! I’m not a fan of white rice either, though… but I do like brown rice. Except the part where it takes forever to cook. Bad for impatient people like me! :p

    <3 <3

  • lesley // November 4, 2009 at 10:12 am | Reply

    Hi Spohia,
    Interesting questions, I’m not an expert but, I think once you have learnt to love yourself for who you are, you start building up the confidence to answer the “voice” in your head. People around you help you do that, their love & support goes with you, you become more aware of the pitfalls & can avoid them.
    Rice, well not a huge lover..unless it has something delicious to accompany it!

  • Mica // November 4, 2009 at 10:15 am | Reply

    Hm, I like rice a lot, though I might like noodles more. Of course, my favorite rice is basmati prepared with lots of butter. Mmmm.

  • Katie // November 4, 2009 at 10:21 am | Reply

    Hi there,
    I am puzzed by your closing comment about hunger. “Oh, here’s another thing I earned from recovery: Being able to feel and honor my hunger! It’s so damn nice to feel hunger and cravings again!” I had a good friend in high school that struggled with ED and she said the same thing, she did not feel hungry after a while. How is that possible? With eating such a small amount did your hunger eventually go away or were you able to just overcome it mentally because of the strength of the disorder? Thanks and I so have appreciated your openness in discussing your journey, it has helped me in understanding my friend and loving her.

  • brandi // November 4, 2009 at 10:36 am | Reply

    I LOVE rice and don’t have it often enough.

    I think those thoughts are definitely hard to move away from, and it is habitual, like you said. Once something is a habit in your mind, it is hard to break.

  • Lauren // November 4, 2009 at 11:08 am | Reply

    thanks for your honest, well written input on recovering. i’m no where near that but i love hearing inspirational things like that, it really gives everyone hope on such a touchy subject!
    And also, that dish looks BANGING. haha seriously, I think I droooooled. you sure know how to put a meal together ;)
    oh and as far as rice, i don’t eat it. i just can’t. quinoa i’ll have if its a good day..haha yeaaah.

  • MelissaNibbles // November 4, 2009 at 11:22 am | Reply

    Thank you for this post. I agree with most everything you said. Especially what you said about the voice in the back of your head. I don’t think that will ever go away, but I’ve gotten better at telling it to SHUT THE F*&K UP!

    :)

  • Mari // November 4, 2009 at 11:25 am | Reply

    I think that one can fully recover but from time to time we might come across a challenge…it’s how you come out on the other end that makes the difference.

  • Yasmin // November 4, 2009 at 11:46 am | Reply

    I don’t think we’ll ever fully recover. That voice will always appear in the backside of our brain. And like you said I know too much now about nutrition to go back to the way I used to be. I’m a more “informed” healthy eater now.

  • Sagan // November 4, 2009 at 12:02 pm | Reply

    I haven’t tried kabocha yet! I really need to.

    I think you make a good point about how to recover, we don’t need to go back to our old ways, but we need to not let food control us. Too many people “recover” but just end up eating unhealthily, which just creates more problems.

    And I agree: I think recovery is possible. I think it’s possible that we might always have the MEMORY of the disorder, and sometimes it might bubble to the surface a bit, but I do believe that recovery is possible. Although I wouldn’t call my experience an “eating disorder”, I WOULD call it “disordered eating”, and at this point I would also say that I have recovered from my issues.

  • Catherine // November 4, 2009 at 12:27 pm | Reply

    I’ve never heard of freekah…can’t wait to try it. Boy, you do sound like you’re in a great place!

  • Diana // November 4, 2009 at 12:36 pm | Reply

    I like rice! Though I avoid white rice and we never make brown rice here at home. So the few times I do eat rice there’s always some twist to it (aka, it’s not just plain white rice).

  • Tiptoe // November 4, 2009 at 12:48 pm | Reply

    This question comes up a lot with eating disorders, even amo9ng professionals. There are some that say yes full recovery is possible, but others who think people will always remain in some form of treatment.

    Personally, I think it is highly subjective, but I think full recovery is possible. You have to define for yourself what that means.

    I do think an Ed forever changes you though both emotionally and physically. How could it not when it is such an intimate part of your life?

    Anyway, good discussion, and I hope others will continue to believe in themselves that recovery can happen.

  • Christina // November 4, 2009 at 12:50 pm | Reply

    Who doesn’t like rice!? I always eat brown now in my meals but occasionally I’ll just go buy a pint of white from a Chinese takeout place. There’s seriously nothing better.

  • shell625 // November 4, 2009 at 12:50 pm | Reply

    what an inspiring post :) i’m glad to see you are so happy and more comfortable with food/yourself/etc.

    i agree– recovery only happens hwen you cOMPLETELY let go.

    have a good day :)

    xoxo
    shelley
    http://findinghappinessandhealth.wordpress.com

  • Kelly // November 4, 2009 at 1:32 pm | Reply

    Great food shots and interesting post. It’s interesting because I don’t have an ED, but I was diagnosed with a combination of anxiety, depression and OCD. Boy, typing that makes me realize how messed up I am. :-) Thanks to therapy, medication, and a lot of work on my own I’ve been able to overcome a lot of my symptoms and live a much happier, balanced life, but they are always kind of in the background. The only difference is I am uber conscious of my thoughts now so while I may never be 100% rid of them, I’ve learned how to co-exist and manage them.

  • Evan Thomas // November 4, 2009 at 1:39 pm | Reply

    I’m not a rice fan. I’ve just never seen its purpose. I think that’s because I eat oatmeal so much I don’t need more grains. But if I have rice ever it’s brown rice

  • Cheryl // November 4, 2009 at 1:59 pm | Reply

    Very intresting discussion, I am always learning. I adore rice, white rice, butter and salt and pepper, heaven!

  • DiningAndDishing // November 4, 2009 at 2:11 pm | Reply

    Great post! Really thought provoking, even for someone who has never had an eating disorder. I find rice soooo boring too! I like interesting flavors and rice never does it for me.

    - Beth @ http://www.DiningAndDishing.com

  • Debbie // November 4, 2009 at 2:45 pm | Reply

    Sophia I think we all relate to the stress and problems in our life in different ways. You developed an eating disorder, and years back I developed panic attacks. As it turns out everyone on my dad’s side of the family is prone to these. Easting disorders, panic attacks, etc. to me never really go away permanently but we learn to manage them to a point where they no longer control our lives and we rarely even think about them. I believe when we are under a great deal of stress they may surface again, but never, ever to the degree as when they first took hold of us. I can’t say I will never have a panic attack again, but I can say that if I do feel anxious, I don’t think it would ever get to the point of a full panic attack. Does that make sense to you?

  • Lynn @ The Actors Diet // November 4, 2009 at 2:45 pm | Reply

    i believe it is possible – for me it was a very complex addiction and i’ve managed to change my relationship with other addictions completely – drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, etc. i believe!

  • Melinda // November 4, 2009 at 2:48 pm | Reply

    Good insights. If you are looking for total recovery I think it can be acheived. While my ED was pretty bad, it never got to the point of life threatening because I had so many people intervene (including my hish school teachers and school nurse) at a critical point for me. It took some time and I really did not enjoy the constant supervision and endless questions about my whereabouts and food intake. In the end I turned my obsession with food around and into something productive, like a career based on the science of nutrition and teaching people how to eat correctly, and helping others combat and prevent chronic diseases (yes, many of us have battled with an ED in the past). There are days when I wish I was “skinny” again, but I know that is a slippery slope and I know better so I choose to live my life in a healthy way…it’s all about balance. I am glad you are on the right path.

  • Jenn@slim-shoppin // November 4, 2009 at 2:51 pm | Reply

    I’ve never had ED, but Sophia I liked how you said, you may hear those voices in your head, but you don’t have to act on them…

    that’s great advice!

    Your dish looks amazing, so super healthy!!

  • Laura // November 4, 2009 at 3:07 pm | Reply

    I agree that in order to recover you need to give up ALL of your ED behaviors. I wrote about that a little while ago in one of my posts, and it makes perfect sense. Holding on to anything unhealthy will KEEP you unhealthy.

    Thank you for this post =]

  • Tavolini // November 4, 2009 at 4:00 pm | Reply

    Well said, Sophia! Cheers on your recovery and pass the kombucha ;)

  • Palidor // November 4, 2009 at 4:04 pm | Reply

    I absolutely LOVE rice, but I never used to like it as a kid. I too couldn’t understand what was so great about something so fluffy and bland. But now, maybe because my taste buds have changed, I don’t think a bowl of steamed rice is bland at all!

    Speaking from my own experience, I think ED is similar to cancer. Like cancer, ED can go into remission, but it never ever leaves you completely. You have to actively take care of yourself – physically, mentally, spiritually – in order not to relapse. As time goes on and you build up healthy habits while releasing the destructive one, this process becomes much easier and eventually second nature. But ED will always be a part of you, which isn’t a bad thing. It’s made you the person you are today, and it may be hard to see, but you’re better because of it.

  • Faith // November 4, 2009 at 4:32 pm | Reply

    Your response to this question is really full of insight! And I completely agree, that while full recovery is possible, your relationship with food will change.

    Your pics are incredible, and this dish sounds amazing! Especially the cheesy-kabocha sauce…mmmm!

  • Joanne // November 4, 2009 at 5:07 pm | Reply

    There was a time when I was absolutely sure that I would never recover. I just didn’t think that I would be able to eat freely ever again. I thought that I would be counting calories forever and that, though I would eat, I would berate myself for any “guilt-ridden” bite that I put in my mouth. A year after recovery, I still felt this way. Even though I considered myself to be recovered since I wasn’t afraid of eating anymore, I would still obsess over every uncontrolled food that I put into my mouth (i.e. food that I didn’t prepare myself). And honestly, at the time I was okay with this. I had accepted that this was just the way it was going to be for the rest of my life.

    Now another year has passed. And I am a completely different person. I don’t berate myself anymore. Or count calories. I can eat pizza on a whim or grab a piece of chocolate from the student affairs office at school. I go weeks at a time without weighing myself. Granted, there are foods that I will probably never eat again, such as fettuccine alfredo, onion rings, or McDonald’s french fries but I don’t think about calorie counts at restaurants anymore. I am a person who I never thought I would be again. So I promise you, recovery IS possible. It just takes time and effort.

    Sophia, I LOVE LOVE LOVE (a) you for writing this thought-provoking entry and (b) your recipe for this cheesy kabocha squash! Love it!

  • teresa // November 4, 2009 at 7:20 pm | Reply

    wonderful post, very inspiring! i think a full recovery can be made for many problems people may face out there.

    the food looks incredible. with great shame i admit that i’ve never tried kabocha, i’ve got to get on that!

  • Clay // November 4, 2009 at 7:32 pm | Reply

    I know that there is such a thing as a ‘full recovery’, the thing is though that we also have to remember the past. I know i will never go back to the way i was since i know what goes into food and where it comes from. I would never eat a giant fast food meal in bed as i go to sleep, but thats because there were other issues with a weight gain that i was unaware of at the time. My goal is to look at food as something that was put on this earth to enjoy, a gift from above, if you will. After all, God made it rain manna…. but im not touching the quail!

    Speaking of gifts from above, can you come over and make some dinner for me. I dont feel motivated enough to cook anything and your chicken looks like some kind of wonderful.

  • Kerstin // November 4, 2009 at 7:40 pm | Reply

    What a yummy kabocha dish – I love all the ingredients and layers of flavor!

    And I really think a full recovery is possible, maybe not right away, but definitely 5 or 10 years down the road!

  • Katharina // November 4, 2009 at 8:34 pm | Reply

    Wow! Sophia I am so glad you posted this. I use to be a skeptic about recovery and I can say that mentally I am at a happy place. I have the same attitude towards food. Flavor is key as well, duh lol. But for real, you don’t even realize when you’re cooking that most things are nutritional. But I guess that’s one beauty of it. You don’t have to think about it ;)

    p.s. because of blogging I learned about kabocha and it never gets old. I love it. LOVE IT! And it’s so yummy with goat cheese.. like that soup you made once :)

    http://www.ohonemorething.wordpress.com

  • Maya // November 4, 2009 at 9:03 pm | Reply

    I never had an eating disorder, but did kind of venture into that territory a bit. I agree, I know way too much about calorie and fat content to ignore such things completely. I can even tell you the calories in a marshmallow. But I have discovered that I cam be way more lenient and (gasp!) not count calories and still maintain a happy, healthy weight. And I do think there is a lot of joy in nutrition without forcing it. I actually really like the texture of a flaxy, oaty bread-more than white bread.

    As for rice, I do love it! I grew up with it. But I love the nutty texure of brown rice more.

  • soulvoyager // November 4, 2009 at 9:15 pm | Reply

    Hi Sophia, thanks for addressing this question. I agree with you. I think recovery might not mean that ED voice is not longer there anymore. I think there is a societal ED around too, which says that we are bad if we eat ‘bad’ foods and good if we only eat ‘healthy’ foods and places our worth just based on appearances. But recovery means not acting on those voices anymore. Whatever we do, it will be us speaking and making the decision, not ED controlling us. I also agree with that all-or-nothing concept of recovery. Incidentally, I was just talking about this in my blog post today. Thanks so much for sharing, Sophia. You’re an inspiration! =)

  • Michelle @ Find Your Balance // November 4, 2009 at 10:50 pm | Reply

    I love those photos! Awesome. As for ‘recovery’, I was thinking the same thing. What does it really mean? All of our life experiences live on with us in some way, and that can be ok. The question is, are they controlling you.

  • the epicurean's market // November 4, 2009 at 11:29 pm | Reply

    Hope. Love this word — it’s so full of love and life and positive energy. As always Sophia, thanks for sharing your journey with us.

  • Alison // November 4, 2009 at 11:36 pm | Reply

    Sophia –

    Thank you so much for responding to my question! You said what I was thinking so much more eloquently than I.
    I am trying to think of a good way to answer the question myself, in more detail than I listed and will hopefully get it up on my blog soon.

  • Jess // November 4, 2009 at 11:41 pm | Reply

    I completely, COMPLETELY believe total recovery is possible. It’s gotten to a point where the “habitual” voices are not even heard anymore. I hate hearing people say they will be disordered for the rest of their lives/recovery isn’t possible. Well, with that opinion, it isn’t!!! Recovery IS possible, but it’s NOT easy. But it’s worth every delicious bite :D

    I have taken away extensive knowledge about nutrition, but I can’t tell you how many calories are in such and such anymore. It’s because I am more focused on the quality of the ingredients, whether it was whole grain, organic, etc.

    I think one of the most important aspects of recovery and beyond is balance. We all need to strive to find the balance between over eating and under eating, between too many cals/too few, between whole grain and “normal.” Life SHOULD involve treats. It should be delicious! Life should not be a life of just chicken and veggies. Let’s have some ice cream too :)

    Fabulous question!!!
    <3 jess
    xoxo

  • Jess // November 4, 2009 at 11:41 pm | Reply

    P.S You freaking rock, Sophia :D

  • candice // November 5, 2009 at 12:28 am | Reply

    I’ve never had a true eating disorder, but I have definitely exhibited “ED-like” behaviors. I completely agree with you–the definition of “recovery” is different for everyone. Personally, I don’t believe that I’ll recover when I return to the previous relationship I had with food–it, uh, wasn’t exactly the healthiest, I’ll put it that way (not through an ED-lens, either–I would stuff myself on garlic bread and Kraft mac&cheese and pizza… all the good stuff, yes?). I think that I will have completely recovered when I can eat what I want and not worry about the “consequences.” I will be able to honor my hunger, not restrict or “punish” myself for eating something “unhealthy,” and look in the mirror and truly be happy with what I see. :)

    As for the FOOD… it looks delicious, as usual. :D Kabocha + cheese = !!! always! As for rice, I have a love-hate relationship with it. I think brown rice has a lot more flavor than white, but sometimes, I enjoy a bowl of semi-sticky white either plain or with furikake… there’s something very comforting about it to me.

  • Andrea@WellnessNotes // November 5, 2009 at 12:48 am | Reply

    Great post. My relationship with food has been all over the place over the past 25 years or so, and I can honestly say that it’s so much more “normal” today than I would have ever thought it could be. Do I still have “obsessive/crazy” thoughts once in a while? Sure. But they happen very infrequently, and I don’t react to them anymore.

    I actually really like rice but have been exploring other grains a bit more.

  • Whole Body Love // November 5, 2009 at 1:45 am | Reply

    I’m glad you answered the tough question. I used to love white rice with melted margarin and salt and pepper. Not exactly the most nutritionally balanced but my mom ate it like that when I was small. Now, I rarely eat rice and if I do, it’s brown.

  • Sarah (Finding My Balance) // November 5, 2009 at 3:45 am | Reply

    Wow, that chicken dish looks really incredible! Nice work!

    I’m a rice fan. I prefer more interesting grains with denser, more interesting textures, but rice is still good in my book. I don’t eat it very often, though.

  • Lorraine @NotQuiteNigella // November 5, 2009 at 5:36 am | Reply

    Rice like but not love. I have gotten into pearl couscous lately which is like big sago pearls.

    As for ED, I think it lingers and I don’t think one can fully, completely lose it. But you can control it (instead of letting it control you). But that’s just my opinion :)

  • Jen // November 5, 2009 at 9:21 am | Reply

    You got this Sophia! ;)

    I do believe recovery is possible too, we will always have voices and demons pushing us to our addictions, but we can learn will power to say no to them and not let things outside of ourselves control us.

    I think you got it~ :)

  • erika // November 5, 2009 at 9:47 am | Reply

    That meal looks amazing! And definitely 100% nutritious! I love rice. White, brown, aborio, wild, all of it. In any way too. Like rice pudding, risotto, as a bed for stir fry. Ok, now I am hungry! :)

  • lisaiscooking // November 5, 2009 at 11:34 am | Reply

    I have two kabocha squashes from my csa, and your dish sounds like a perfect use for them!

  • Internal Peace // November 5, 2009 at 12:46 pm | Reply

    Sophia, you wrote such beautiful words here! I adore your writing style and your positivity! And I could not agree more on what recovery is. I also DO think it’s possible, but there will be memories that hang around for a long time. I consider myself FULLY recovered, but occasionally my inner critic will still yell at me…I’ve simply gotten better about ignoring it, and replacing self-abusive thoughts with positive ones. I have also gotten to the point where if an ED-urge appears, I am able to not act on it and realize that I cannot harm myself on the basis of a fleeting emotion.

    Anyway, great post as always! Thanks for sharing your voice with all of us! :) God bless!

  • Gera @ SweetsFoods // November 5, 2009 at 2:21 pm | Reply

    I think that like every disease it might be the possibility to have some episodes again, the difference is that now you can control it and now you know everything about it…. so the chances are very low to appear again :)

    The chicken is totally mouthwatering!

    Cheers,

    Gera

  • louise // November 5, 2009 at 2:39 pm | Reply

    I’ve learned so much about Ed since I’ve started visiting your blog, Sophia. It’s helped me so much with dealing with my sister. I only wish she would join the world of blogging so she could “meet” you and others. Thank you for sharing…

    Does Rice Pudding count? I adore rice pudding!!! Although, I wouldn’t mind plating up some of that Cheesy-Kabocha Chicken right about now. It looks mighty fine…

  • Blond Duck // November 5, 2009 at 2:47 pm | Reply

    I think you know yourself very well. :)

  • Emily (http://funnyemily.wordpress.com) // November 5, 2009 at 4:21 pm | Reply

    i really liked reading this post.
    i think in order to recover someone has to be willing to. right now i waver, and its hard, but i think some day i’ll get it. it’s about respecting your mind and your body at the same time. realizing that calories are just calories and the world is so much bigger than them. i think recovery is possible, but only if you are willing to live without it.

    eh, sometimes i like rice, but sometimes it’s just useless :)

  • Emily (http://funnyemily.wordpress.com) // November 5, 2009 at 4:21 pm | Reply

    ps—-omg that dish is beautiful :)

  • CaSaundra // November 5, 2009 at 9:00 pm | Reply

    Ooh I’ve found a fellow rice hater!! Yayyy! Ha ha, I have never ever liked it no matter how many things you can pile on top.

    Btw, I tell you this numerous times, but your writing is seriously beautiful and so well put together–when are you publishing a book?! :-)

  • cheffresco // November 5, 2009 at 10:58 pm | Reply

    This looks soo yummy! I would love this dish.

    And yes, I think you can recover from an ED :) It takes a while, but ultimately you can win.

  • Katherine // November 5, 2009 at 11:07 pm | Reply

    I’ve been fortunate that I haven’t had to battle ED, but man, what a struggle it must be with those thoughts in your head – they control everything. I’m soooo glad you have a restored relationship with food….and yourself! YAY!

  • KC Jones // November 6, 2009 at 1:42 am | Reply

    I do think total recovery is possible, because I am in recovery right now! I also believe that it is something that you always have to work at. Many people in recovery from an addiction, which an eating disorder is, go to support groups for the rest of their life. I know I probably will. There are things that I know I must do if I want to stay in recovery. I very rarely have that harmful voice in my head anymore-I think a lot of it has to do with what we surround ourselves with and the fact that we need to be conscious of our surroundings, because our environment does affect us. If we surround ourselves with negative things, then we cannot help but be negative ourselves.

  • Damjana // November 6, 2009 at 10:00 am | Reply

    You can give rice a try but not plain. It tastes great in milk (milk rice with chocolate), with vegetable sauce (mixed with curry sauce, tomato sauce..so that the sauce is stronger than plain rice). Rice is actually good because it takes excess water from the body. Plain rice doesn’t taste so good, I agree.
    Thanks for your insight into this recovery topic. I know a friend of mine for whom I can say that she recovered completely

  • Emily (The Experimentarian) // November 6, 2009 at 10:20 am | Reply

    Hmmm…complicated question. Hard and fast, I DON’T think full recovery is ever possible. but let me clarify–full recovery from an eating disorder isn’t possible like recovery from LIFE isn’t possible.

    You will never lose that experience, but then, would you really want to? Yes, I wish I didn’t have to face these fierce struggles on a daily, hourly, all-the-time basis, but it has made me who I am. It has shaped my life and my spirit and my empathy towards others. There is a part of me that believes I must have selected this trial in order to LEARN whatever it is that I am supposed to in order to progress.

    I suppose I would kind of compare it to the process of repentance. We sin, we grow from our experience. We feel regret, guilt and humility. We turn to our Savior and he offers us complete forgiveness and erasure of our sins in his eyes. But we remember. We rarely forgive ourselves as fully as He is able to. We hold on to that experience to help us learn from our mistakes and become better.

    There are many other moments of pain in my life and choices that I wish I could undo or forget, but they have made me who I am today. And I am growing to like that person.

    One day I will be free of symptoms from my eating disorder and my thoughts of ed will be very few and far between. My life will be stuffed with things and people and emotions that are greater than food. I will be “recovered.” But I will always remember.

    Hope you don’t mind, but I think I will also use this comment in my next post…love you for asking the hard questions. xoxo

  • Claire // November 6, 2009 at 1:57 pm | Reply

    Hey, Sophia. Interesting post. I will attempt to keep this short lest I turn incoherent from the work fatigue :D

    From my personal experience, full recovery is possible. Thank you for making me sit down and ponder: How do I know for certain that I have FULLY recovered? Have I changed because of ED, as a person and my relationship with food?

    I know I am fully recovered, because like you rightly said: the disordered behaviour is gone. Well, so are the disordered thoughts. No more voices. None – extinguished entirely, by His grace. Like you, I am deeply embarrassed by memories of the past (I mean seriously, stuffing 1kg worth of cereal non-stop because I lost control and then starving myself thereafter and forcing myself to sleep just so I don’t have to bear being awake and hungry throughout dinner and the entire night? Waking up in the middle of night writhing in pain from the hunger, but simply refusing to eat? Eating in the washroom because I somehow believed not eating in the presence of human beings is fine?)

    I don’t hear them voices no more. I eat when I am hungry. I eat all sorts of junk if I get the cravings (think chips, chocolate, real coca cola, nutella, fries). The difference is: I stop when my body feels satisfied (I can actually feel! I can listen to my body!)

    I don’t weigh myself for weeks or months on end (it used to be hourly weigh ins and extreme guilt if I so much as gained half a kg which could be water for all I know).

    Well I could go on. But I think the short answer is: You just know. Our bodies were never built to live with this disease (by His stripes we are healed!) and therefore, I genuinely believe, if the illness is gone, you simply just know. You will finally live life again the way it was meant to be lived, you will feel the zest for life and you will no longer feel strange, alienated and perpetually obsessed with food.

    Re whether I changed as a result of ED. But of course! I now know what it’s like at the other end of the stick, and as I so coincidentally told my sis a couple of days ago who complained she gained weight, while I happily polished off half a packet of Marks & Spencers sour cream & shallots (or something wonderful like that), that quite honestly I simply don’t care. Well, ‘don’t care’ not in the sense of “I could put on 100 pounds and I don’t give a damn” – I am still vain, I’d admit – but in the sense of ‘I am no longer obsessed’. Because I am Never Going Back to those darkest days of my life. Eating is fine if your body craves it; just exercise it off (not obsessively of course, I do it just twice a week).

    I changed, heck of a lot, I changed because of ED. And I am grateful for that change. I now know that God loves me no matter what, that He can deliver me from whatever crap valley of gloom and He can do the impossible even when I could not muster the faith of a mustard seed. I would not change the experience, because I believe – and in fact I see – that it has made me stronger as a human being and more real. And I can now relate to all of you who are struggling or have struggled with ED, and I can say without a shadow of a doubt that FULL recovery is indeed possible through Him.

    Now, I hope I retained my coherence somewhat. :)

    Cheers again for this honest post. Keep up the wonderful writing.

    xx
    Claire.

  • Claire // November 6, 2009 at 2:14 pm | Reply

    Another point I think I should add: I used to think, in the depths of my ED stages, that if I ever stopped controlling or obsessing about my food intake, I will BALLOON.

    But you know what – and I believe it’s part of the message God wants to convey – that’s a LIE!

    I am currently very slim (oh, another difference is I now SEE that I am slim when I actually am, instead of thinking I am still fat despite being skin and bones). I say this not in pride, but really to say to all of you who have believed this lie – Don’t!

    xx
    claire

  • OysterCulture // November 8, 2009 at 12:12 am | Reply

    Somehow I knew we were heading for a kaboucha recipe was coming, and I was right. Its the perfect choice as I know its a favorite of yours.

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